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Conceptual/Initial
Design:
Which CAD
paradigm is
best?
I have been
having a
discussion
with an
associate on
which CAD
paradigm is
best for
Conceptual/Initial
design. He
has a vested
interest in
explicit
modeling and
wants to
push this as
a feature of
SpaceClaim.
I disagreed
with him and
here is why.
Both History
and Explicit
based
modeling
products are
equal in
conceptual
or initial
design. My
first CAD
tool of
choice is
IRONCAD. I
like its
quick and
easy drag
and drop
design
paradigm. I
use it in
conjunction
with
KeyCreator
doing my
design. But
that was
because I
never had a
program that
had the
explicit
capabilities
of
SpaceClaim.
Luckily I
have a few
tools at
my disposal. But
the
beautiful
thing about
all of these
products: You can
design parts
and
assemblies
in one model
design
space. This
is an
incredible
productive
capability.
Just think
bring a SW,
Pro/E, Catia,
UG/Siemens
assembly in
one model
space, it is
incredible.
As long as
the
original highly
skilled
designer is
using the
history
based
modeling
tool everything
goes very
smoothly.
But imagine
that fellow
leaving the
company,
getting sick
or get
transferred.
Then the
next fellow
get the
assignment
of taking
over in the
middle of
the job. Oh
Oh... This
is truly a
problem. Or
what if the
job has
gotten to
stage two or
three of the
design
process, and
the same
thing
happens. The
problem gets
even worse.
But lets use
an explicit
modeler.
Even IRONCAD
can convert
the history
into a
usable part
that can be
edited
directly.
Now IRONCAD
is not my
first choice
for explicit
modeling.
Even though
KeyCreator
is by far
the best
*hybrid
modeler it
is not to
the level of
SpaceClaim
in explicit
solid
modeling.
SpaceClaim
being only a
couple of
years old is
in the midst
of being
brought to a
new level of
CAD
productivity.
They have a
crack design
team. On my
project they
were
enthused
about my
input and
were excited
to use my
initial
experience
as a case
study.
Here is the
finish
design, sent
off for .stl
and
manufacturing.
Took 12
hours with
the learning
curve.
Probably 6
hours if I
was
proficient.
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But let's
get back to
Conceptual
or Initial
Design. As
we know we
can get into
a problem
with editing
history
based
models. So
as I told my
associate,
as folks
move into
editing
their parts
and find it
to be too
time
consuming
they will
soon be
looking to
SpaceClaim
or one
of our other
products.
Now as they
use the
SpaceClaim to
edit old
design they
will soon
realize that
SpaceClaim
can actually
increase
their
productivity
in
conceptual
or initial
design.
Using
SpaceClaim
is a win-win
solution.
It truly
solves the
legacy
problem, SW,
Pro/E, UG/Siemens,
AutoCad
Inventor and
Catia with
the
translator
options
it can read
and write in
some cases
the native
files. You
can easily
edit/modify
existing
design for
new
projects.
You can
create parts
that can be
sent back
into any of
those above
products to
detail,
assemble,
reference,
etc. You
can use your
existing
system to
basically as
a PLM or PDM
system.
If you are a
manager you
are at the
mercy of
your
designers.
How much
time is
being wasted
on editing
models or
struggling
with the
creation of
difficult
parts? A
manager,
lead
engineer,
manufacturing
engineer or
any other
person can
be up to
speed in no
time in
SpaceClaim,
being able
evaluate the
status of a
project. You
can bring
full
assemblies
into
SpaceClaim
and review
the design.
I tell you
this is a
Win-Win
solution.
*Hybrid
Modeler:
KeyCreator
is the
King. You
can work
with 2D/3D
wireframe,
advanced
surfaces and
solids in
one
incredible
usable 3D
space. The
is no equal.
Moving to a
new CAD
system.
Now next I
have a real
life
situation.
One of our very good KeyCreator users is being pushed into using Solidworks. The company purchased SW a couple of years ago and the user put off implementing it since KeyCreator was doing the job very effectively. But there was this one problem that the Solidworks proponents in the company could solve: Associative Sheetmetal design. Now the user does a lot of sheetmetal and even he has been requesting this capability from Kubotek.
Now a couple of years ago, I would have shrugged my shoulders and basically would have not had anything to offer. But today is different!
Today, Solidworks is not the best option. Let's take a look at the things they face implementing SW, Inventor, Pro/E, Catia, Alibre, etc. Now I am leaving Solid Edge out of this since its introduction of Synchronous Technology, but I will get into that later.
1. Training: Incredibly Costly. It takes 3 months to get familiar with a history based modeling system, and 9 months to get proficient. Cost: 5 hours a week: $50.00 per hour total costs: $9,000.00 per designer.
2. Incompatibility: Good for only new design, it seems a bit silly to start using a complex product only for sheet metal design.
Yes this
is probably the
most costly part
of this
transition. This
company has been
using Cadkey/KeyCreator
for over ten
years. So what
do they do with
their legacy
data??
Solidworks will
only be able to
be used in new modify non-native parts.
3. Editing: Can be very time consuming. In my past newsletters I have described the amount of time it takes to evaluate how the part/assembly was made. Depending on the complexity of the parts, this can take hours, not including the level of expertise of the designer. Now it may be impossible and the part will have to be made over, oh oh.. talk about a potential for errors.
4. Cost: Maintenance of SW is not cheap.
So let's take a look at the new Generation CAD and the beginning of CAD standardization.
We will focus on SpaceClaim since it does offer our KeyCreator user easy to use Associative Sheet Metal.
1. Training: Short learning curve.
SpaceClaim
is very similar
to KeyCreator.
You basically
design the same
way, modifying
faces, adding
shapes, cutting
shapes, directly
working on the
part or assembly
in the same
space.
SpaceClaim
automates many
of
2. Incompatibly: Work interchangeably with KC.
SpaceClaim
and KeyCreator,
by both using
the ACIS solid
modeling kernel
offer a very
high level of
model
compatibility.
If you only used
SpaceClaim for
sheetmetal
design you would
be miles ahead
of the
Solidworks
3. Editing: This is where the game comes to an end Yes, Solidworks is a good program. It is very functional in a closed engineering environment. But even in that environment it is very user sensitive. It really demands to make sure you are an expert user. I can only imagine the conversations about each individuals abilities. With SpaceClaim when you are done with a part you are done with the part. When a new designer needs to edit the part he starts to work instantly.
4. Cost: The price of SpaceClaim is very reasonable.
Adding History based modeling
Solid Edge does now offer Explicit modeling, but it is a separate module. You have, what they call, the Classic mode and the ST mode. Never the twain shall meet. Now the only product that does both in one model space is IRONCAD/Innovate. It is a bit weak in Explicit modeling but can usually get the job done. In the past, when I have not been able to modify something I drop it into KC. The interesting thing about IRONCAD is that they have a modeling only package called Innovate that offers history based modeling, but their history is miles above SW and any other history based solid modeling programs. You drag and drop features into the model environment from Standard catalogs or you can create your own catalogs for special parts/assemblies. These catalogs are easy to create by just dragging your parts or assemblies into them. This is another interesting solution you can add history based solid modeling to your explicit modeler for $1,295.00. But IRONCAD/INNOVATE offers more than just history based solid modeling. Look at the list below.
INNOVATE:
1. Good Explicit Modeling 2. Easy to use, integrated realistic rendering 3. Easy to use, complete animation including walk through's. 4. Display modeling, adjusting complex lighting from multiple sources. Imbedded lighting: like in a lamp or a street light. 5. Kinematics with a collision detection 6. Drag and drop modeling 7. Standard and Custom catalogs from where you can drag parts and assemblies into the model design space. 8. Both Parasolid and ACIS solid modeling kernels.
With IRONCAD Add:
8. Full detailing, I love this because you can also use this for creating manuals, promo, rigging instructions, etc. 9. Advanced Smartshape functionality, increase you modeling capability. 10. Sheetmetal design.
I highly recommend that you review any of these products. We can get a 30 day evaluation of any of our products. This holiday is a great time to play with these products. I know I am being a bit presumptuous assuming anyone would be like me and think of CAD as play, but what can I say. Most of you have known me for years, some for 23 years and already know this.
Drop me an email at jb@tecnetinc.com and I will send you a link to download the programs and a 30 day license. Just tell me which ones you would like to evaluate.
If you would like to set up an online demo please feel free to call and I will set one up and show you the capabilities. |